Q&A of October 14, 2012 – Aajonus Answers Questions As No One Else Could (old)

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Aajonus gives answers

in a question and answer session of October 14, 2012 in Marina Del Rey, California.

Aajonus speaking is "A", a member of the group speaking is "G"

A: Ok, start behind me. Roger – do you have a question?

G: Yeah – what about green tea? Do you think it’s beneficial?

A: A lot of people put it out as a health food because they’re selling a product. Green tea is your vegetable juice.

Cooked green tea has lots of toxic minerals in it – any metal that’s in the vegetable when you cook it you release that as a toxin; it’s no longer bound to the esters in the plant. So, anytime you cook anything – whether it’s tea – no matter what it is – it becomes toxic.

G: Now there is some tea that comes from Korea as a green (Inaudible). You put it in cold water. Would that be any different?

A: No, they’ve had to steam it and cook it to get (Inaudible) out of the warmth.

G: Ok.

A: And it takes great heat to do that – the processing.

G: If you leave the tea bag in the water and leave it in the sun, you’re going to get metals.

A: Yeah, it’s a vegetable format – it’s vegetable juice. You’re not going to get much from it because there’s no enzyme activity in it; there’s no active enzymes in it.

G: Is it better than a glass of water?

A: Well, it’s probably a little bit better than just water – but pretty close to just water.

G: What if you put it in a blender – like one time I put some mint leaves, blended it and then strained out –

A: Fresh mint leaves?

G: Fresh mint leaves.

A: That’s fine.

G: Yeah?

A: That’s fine.

G: Is it too much water though?

A: It’s still too much water.

G: Yeah – ok.

A: Better to have juice – add mint to your juice. It would be a lot better.

A: Ok. Do you have a question?

G: I do: I was wondering what do you do if you’re travelling. I’m going to –

A: I travel all the time.

G: But how do you do – do you take things?

A: Yeah – I have a letter from an MD that says I was diagnosed with diabetes and cancer and I have to eat every hour and I have to take so much food. When I go to Asia the letter says I have to take 20 to 30 pounds with me and you can’t x-ray it – you have to check each one by hand. So, I go two hours early to give them time to do all that process. But I write letters for my patients and I charge 80 to 100, depending upon the situation and then that lasts about four months. You can use the letter for four months. And some people can use it for a couple years or if you get a TSA agent who’s a tough guy – he’s not going to let you use it for more than four months.

So, it says: I need two quarts of milk, I need my raw meat, sauce, vegetable juice. So, I go on with a whole bag of foods and have it hand-checked. Because it says: Cannot be scanned – it has to be hand-checked.

G: Is that base carry on?

A: Yeah.

G: And they do it?

A: Don’t put anything in check-in – they put everything through a huge radiation scanner which is 100 times an x-ray.

G: Do you have any liquids with you?

A: Yeah – I said I take two quarts of milk and a vegetable juice. When I’m going to Asia I’ll take three quarts of milk, plus a juice – a quart. So, I take a gallon (Inaudible).

G: Do you ever bring your juice on the plane? How long is your flight?

A: Well, let’s say I take off here – I’ve been to Taipei – I’m two hours there – lay-over – and by the time I get to Bangkok it’s about 24 hours.

G: The whole time your juice is there.

A: I don’t mind fermented juice.

G: You don’t mind the fermented juice?

A: No, fermented juice is a good detox. When I went away I left a quart of juice in the refrigerator. I came back two a half months later – I drank the whole thing.

G: Oh, my lord.

A: It’s delicious. Fermented juice is delicious.

G: Did it taste like beer?

A: No, it tastes very tangy though.

G: What containers do you put them in to?

A: Glass – all my food’s in glass. Except this last time I got (Inaudible).

G: Ever have a problem when they check it with a scanner once it goes through?

A: They check it with the metal detector – they don’t put it through the scanner.

G: Because when I do it they wipe it with a white circle, put it under a machine to check for –

A: To check for nitrogen – yeah.

G: They said they can’t see it (inaudible). They threw away all my butter – Sacramento Airport.

G: And we had a letter from you too.

A: Well, you may need to wipe before you take it.

G: Yeah.

A: Must have got some manure in it. Because the manure has nitrogen that’s what it’s like in the city if it’s near a farm directly. I was always wipe my honey. Honey has strong nitrogen in it, so it sets off – like it’s nitrous oxide.

G: Do you take a glass of honey?

A: Just a wet cloth – a damp cloth – the outside.

G: Do you take a glass of honey?

A: Yeah – I take a jar of honey. I take butter on and everything.

G: And eggs?

A: Yeah, I even take eggs – not all the time I take eggs – I’ve had too many accidents with eggs, but most of the time I do take them.

G: Can you put them in a jar?

A: Pardon?

G: Can you put them raw into a jar?

A: I don’t really want to do that. You could.

G: Is it going to oxidize, or?

A: Yeah – I don’t like them oxidizing, but sometimes I’ll make a milkshake – eat my eggs that way. So, two quarts of milk, a quart of milkshake, a quart of juice, or a pint of juice.

G: Uh-huh.

A: So, that’s how I do it.

G: What would be your recommendations be for treating skin disorders:  eczema / psoriasis?

A: Well, like I said in the book – the moisturizing and lubrication formula – have at least two a day. If you have say psoriasis which is pretty severe – have two of those a day and take three ounces at a time – a good three ounces about every two to three hours. Keep doing that and take it down to size and then take it down to just one. It would take about eight months to get rid of psoriasis. If it’s eczema, could be longer. It’s pretty rare. Especially when it’s easily digestible with the honey and the lemon juice.

Do you have a question?

G: Yes, regarding the raw cheese regimen that you recommended for me and others:  nuts and bolts – how much leeway? For instance – do you always eat the cheese before a drink or a meal? Do you always eat it a half hour regardless of when you eat that sugar-cube that you’ve mentioned?

A: No, I recommend that people eat small amounts of cheese to absorb the poisons that are constantly dumping into the stomach and intestines. That’s not the normal route; that’s not the healthy route for toxins to leave the body – 90% of toxins are supposed to leave through the skin. Because the lymph systems are so blocked – the connective tissue is so jammed with trans-fatty acids which are plastic fats that you’ve all been raised on – donuts, chips, French fries – anything that’s been fried and heavy with carbohydrates then fried in a trans-fatty oil. Trans-fatty oil means the oils that’s been hydrogenated and hydrogenation is a process of making into plastic. So, trans-fatty acids are plastic fats – plastic oils. 99% of all oils used to fry foods – no matter what they are – are trans-fatty acids because they have an indefinite shelf life – 100 years – they’re dead. That’s why they are plastic – they are not alive anymore. They will not help you – they will jam your lymphatic system – jam everything in your body, so –

G: Aajonus, I have relatives who are going to fry because they don’t believe this. What is the best thing to tell them if they’re going to fry some of these – to fry it in lard?

A: Well, no, you should fry it in stone-pressed olive oil or coconut cream or coconut oil.

G: Coconut oil?

A: Yeah.

G: Or olive oil.

A: Olive oil.

G: Right – coconut.

G: Back to my question: Yes –

A: Everybody has (Inaudible).

G: Right.

A: So, eating this cheese will absorb those poisons as the body dumps them into the stomach rather than out the skin and it does that.  The lymph system takes its waste and dumps it under the skin to be perspired out of the skin. If it’s jammed it won’t do it, so it dumps it into the mucous membranes and if you get a cold or a flu or you’re spitting up mucous regularly – that’s elimination through your mucous membranes. The mucous membranes of the intestinal tract also – that’s where most of them get dumped. Whenever you get nauseous that’s an indication that something’s toxic you’ve just eaten, or somewhere else stored in your body is going to the stomach and dumping into the stomach.

Now hydrochloric acid neutralizes about 80% of all toxins, so nausea creates a lot of hydrochloric acid.   The stomach produces massive amounts of hydrochloric acid from nausea. That is our reaction.  It forces the stomach to produce tremendous amounts of hydrochloric acid – more like five to eight times more than what’s normal to produce the protein from meat - so it’s very concentrated.  If you vomit, that means your body’s decided to use that hydrochloric acid to utilize it to expend, and then you get rid of it immediately – vomiting is the quickest way to get rid of the most poisons. Next is diarrhea, but then you upset the whole ecological bacterial environment of the intestines.

So, the cheese will absorb it, depending upon the toxicity of the person. I recommend people eat a little sugar-cubed size amount of cheese with just half a tsp. every 15 to 60 minutes, depending upon the individual.

G: Can you eat clay?

A: Clay won’t do it – if you have clay you’re going to get constipated and also not digest everything. Clay is helpful in that situation, but you can’t eat it pretty well.

G: How often?

A: Once a day – twice a day at most for clay.

G: Could you add butter with the cheese?

A: Butter to the cheese is ok. You should do it since you’re so thin. So, that will absorb the toxins.

Now, your question?

G: Yes, as far as leeway in taking it every 15/45 minutes: Do you always take it 10 minutes before a meal, or could you just stick to the interval throughout the day regardless of the meal?

A: If you’re going to have a meal – let’s say it was at a certain time and your cheese is supposed to fall in the midst of it – always eat cheese 10 minutes before that meal or drink your milkshake, whatever it is. So, you’ll absorb the poisons into the cheese and they won’t get into your food because if it gets into your food you’re just going to recycle your poisons – and that’s what 99% of people do: Recycle their poisons.

G: What do you when you’re sipping milk every 10/15 minutes? Let’s say you take a little sip and –

A: Still stick to your cheese every 15, 20, 30, 45, 60 minutes – still do that.

G: Do you mean do the cheese and wait 10 minutes for the milk?

A: Yeah – uh-huh.

G: Ok.

A: Yeah. And let’s say I’ve got construction workers who are heavily toxic and laboratory personal who deal with a lot of formaldehyde and mercury – I have them eat a cube every 15 minutes. So, they’ll take that and wait seven minutes, drink some sport formula or milk, or milkshake and then seven minutes have that piece of cheese again – and they do that all day long.  When it comes to a meal of course they don’t eat that cheese during that half of the meal, but they eat it 10 minutes before the meal and then about 25 minutes after the meal they have cheese again, then 10 minutes after that is when you have honey and cheese together. When you have cheese without honey without fruit you do not digest the cheese; there are no enzymes in dehydrated food, no matter what it is. So, you have to have honey or some kind of fruit – like an acidic fruit – like pineapple or papaya – to provide the enzymes to digest that cheese. So, twice a day I recommend that 25 minutes after your meal you have a little piece of cheese, 10 minutes after that you have your cheese with honey and that’s your mineral supplement. Ok?

I’ve seen women with 32% bone loss and osteoporosis reverse that in nine months by doing that. Nine months.

G: Wow.

A: It used to take two – two and a half – three years before I started experimenting with that. Now nine months.

G: Any kind of raw cheese or even a cottage cheese?

A: Does not matter.

G: Cottage cheese ok?

A: Cottage is fine – as long as it’s not too wet.

G: Not too wet.

A: Yeah.

G: Does it have to be unsalted?

A: Has to be unsalted. Salt is an explosive – it starts fractionating your food, so if you have raw salted cheese you’re going to reabsorb your poisons. If you have pasteurized cheese you’re going to reabsorb your poisons. If you have salted pasteurized cheese you’re going to really not synthesize, as well as reabsorbing your poisons – toxins.

Do you have a question?

G: Not yet.

A: Ok. Come back.

G: What’s the best way to help re-mineralize your teeth?

A: Just the way I said it: Eat cheese often, so your body’s not using your key minerals to bind with the poisons.  When you’re eating the cheese and honey together, you’re filling your body with tremendous amounts of …  If you’ve got a real serious problem at any particular time, you do that three times a day: twice after a meat meal because you’re only having one meat meal a day – that means you have to take it two other times – and the middle of the night is the one time in the middle of the night that is best. And that’ll help if you stick with it.

G: And is it true that you detox your head through your mouth through your teeth?

A: Yes – your brain detoxes through the sinuses, but mainly the gums, the tongue and the salivary glands. If you’ve got a white tongue that indicates the poisons are mainly leaving the tongue – your body uses the calcium, phosphorous, magnesium and potassium to bind with those poisons, or else your tongue would turn into a very acidic, sore, bleeding appendage. So, that white tongue – although the Chinese say that’s a bad thing – it’s a good thing. Your body is still using those minerals to attach to the toxins coming through the mouth. Scrape it off, that’s fine – take some oil or something and just swish it around in your mouth to clean it off the tongue – it’s all good. And you can swallow it after it passes the main (Inaudible).

G: As far as re-mineralizing teeth is the cheese a substitute for the fermented milk and egg shell formula that you recommended to me last year?

A: Yeah, it works a little better.

G: The cheese is better?

A: Yeah.

G: Good, I like it better.

A: I do to.

G: Do you eat the cheese and honey 10 minutes before a cheese?

A: You eat the cheese – it’s always the cheese 10 minutes before you have the cheese and honey.

G: Yeah, but even in the middle of the night do you do it?

A: Yeah, still I have a piece of cheese first but you don’t have to wait a full 10 minutes – 5 minutes is fine during the middle of the night. And when you have that cheese with honey it should be about a three to one ratio – maximum. So, let’s say you’re having a tbsp. of cheese, you have a tsp. of honey only; you have three tbsp. of cheese, you can have two a half to three tsp. of honey.

Ok, Kathy’s waving.

G: What do I do – there’s people that say to me my hearing is going out and I am confused because I’ve been on the diet since eighteen years in December, believe it or not, when I came to you and started – and I don’t know what to do.

A: Well, you’re still going to degenerate because you spent 45 years on a toxic diet, so every cell is inundated with toxins. It takes 40 years – according to Pottenger and Howell’s work – to remove all the toxins from the body when you’re on a 100% raw diet. If you’re not on a 100% raw diet,  it’s going to take longer – so there’s going to be deterioration somewhere until it’s gone.

G: Well, it takes the hot baths – are going to pull out some of it.

A: Hot baths help discharge a lot of the poisons throughout the skin – yes.

G: Do them at the ears too.

A: Do them to the ears – but you usually don’t put your head under the water so you put a hot water bottle at one ear one night and the next ear at the other night.

A: Yeah – and that’s the best way. Whenever you have a problem area the way to speed increase circulation and nutrients to that area is applying heat. If you apply ice or cold, what happens? It shrinks and constricts – reduces – shrinks the amount of flow of nutrients to that area. Take your athletes for example: They get injured they pack ice on it – what happens? Bruising normally means that you’re swelling and the swelling is increasing those nutrients to the area. You cut that off and what happens? These athletes are constantly getting surgeries because they’re starting over – because they’re not cleaning out the dead cells; they’re just forcing themselves to create scar tissue – it means putting bricks in the wall – dead cells to heal an area.

G: Because you heal can you do hot, cold, cold, hot, going to cold, hot, cold?

A: You can do cold for two minutes, but you don’t want to jump in ice – unless you’re a polar bear.

Ok – do you have a question?

G: What are your thoughts about Alzheimer’s and Dementia?

A: Well, Alzheimers – a lot of it comes from mercury. Also, it’s been related to aluminum poisoning – both of those. I’m not sure that aluminum on its own will cause that because, according to Calgary University’s research, the lesions of it created in neurons were only created with mercury and not when they applied aluminum, and barium and other minerals. So, I think that it is connected with aluminum because a lot of people are discharging aluminum – I’ve had a lot of high aluminum levels from vaccines – and that includes mercury and aluminum. So, I think they’re associating aluminum to dementia too often.

G: (Inaudible).

A: Yeah, but I haven’t seen it confirmed by anybody – Calgary is the only one that I knew who has done definitive research on that. If you look at the lesions, the fractionation of the neurons only occurred in the company of mercury and not in the minerals. So, aluminum does not create a neurological condition of degeneration. Now, it can interfere with synapse transmission, but it doesn’t cause neuronal decay – like mercury does. So, it’s mostly from mercury poisoning and you have had a lot of that – and it takes a lot to get that out.

Now since I was subdued in that hotel room and injected with those three shots my mercury levels – my aluminum levels are off the charts. Same with vaccines – I’ve had two vaccines. So, that’s obvious to me what they have injected me with. Now, my hair’s gone very grey and I’ve lost six teeth now since I was injected. And I have berries with eggs and vinegar and pineapple almost every day to get rid of those poisons faster and lots of cheese to help remove that. And after those injections my skin was bursting open and bruising and bleeding. It happened over when I headed back – and it looks like I was hit with a grenade – the shrapnel from a bomb.

G: Eggs, berries and what else?

A: Pineapple, vinegar and berries – all of those chelate with those metal toxins.

G: Does it get out the vaccines?

A: And heavy metals.

G: Everybody does it different amounts.

A: Well it depends: If you have a higher level aluminum you have more raspberries and strawberries; if you have more mercury, lead and other dark metals, then the dark berries are preferable. Now, blueberries are very good and they take it out smoothly. If you have blackberries you’re going to have a heavier detox – even have some dementia as you detox some of that mercury and blackberries.

G: Those bigger berries, you’re talking about?

A: Blackberries.

G: What about raspberries?

A: Like I said – raspberries are good for getting aluminum and iron.

G: So, what’s the proportion of the vinegar and things like that?

A: Well, it depends upon what you can take. It depends – when I’m making it I’ll make three cups to four cups a day and I’ll drink it throughout the day instead of the milkshakes. I still have my other foods but I don’t drink that within let’s say 45 minutes of a meat meal. And that is my fruit meal; I just spread the fruit meal throughout the day instead of having it one time of the day. And I will have about four to five eggs in it, depending upon the size of the eggs – medium eggs will be four; small ones I’ll have five eggs; I’ll have about a half a cup of cream; I’ll have about one and a quarter cup of berries; I use a mixture – I use raspberries, blueberries and blackberries. I want to make sure I’m getting a whole lot. And then I’ll use about one to two tbsp. of vinegar. And do the two tbsp. every day for let’s say no more than 10 days. You’re going to have to cut it down to one tbsp. a day for maybe five days and then you go back to two tbsp. for 10 days – and just rotate it like that. If you just have a lot of vinegar you’re going to stop digesting some of those foods – stop absorbing them.

G: It depends on the person – one tbsp. probably if you’re smaller set?

A: Yeah. Unless you’re very heavy set – you can add two.

And then I’ll have about a tbsp. of honey and then sometimes two tbsp. if I’m having four cups. And I’ll either have half a cup of milk or half a cup of whey.

G: (Inaudible).

A: I’ll sip it throughout the day – I’ll have like two ounces at a time maybe every 20 minutes – and that’s in between eating my cheese – I have my cheese every 20 minutes.

Ok – do you have a question, Ann?

G: (Inaudible).

A: You have to eat pineapple on a regular basis. I use a thin slice, it equals about a third of a cup – three ounces by volume of pineapple in that mixture. Pineapple and coconut cream is very helpful to help break it down, but the body will never do it properly without hot baths. If you’re going to break down the lymphatic waste under the skin it takes about 45 minutes at 105 degrees staying temperature, so a hot tub is very necessary.

G: What was the question – I couldn’t hear?

A: She asked about relieving lymphatic congestion.

G: Oh, ok.

A: If you want to get rid of lymphatic congestion that means you want to get the lymphatic system clear of the congestion – that takes a 90 minute bath a day at about 105 degrees. And it’s hard to do that – people have difficulty staying in a hot tub that long – so I say watch a movie and have a bowl of ice water running next to you with ice cubes floating in it and a wash cloth – sit that on top of your head – stick your hand – you know, fist in there up to your wrists – two minutes – you’ll want to stay in the tub. It automatically cancels out wanting to get out of the tub. So – and that’s the way it stays. Some people if they’re very overweight they get heat prostration quickly – they may have to do that every 10-15 minutes, so normally a person does that once every 20 minutes.

G: Does massage help at all?

A: Massage won’t really do anything for that – it’ll cause a breakage in the lymphatic and make it worse. True lymphatic massage to me is a tickle, so it electrically moves things – so you’re tickling them. You know how sometimes you get tickled? That’s driving the electricity in the system – in a blocked system. When you’re ticklish or you’re very sensitive to touch like that, that means your lymphatic system is blocked – and the neurological system. And a lot of that energy is charged up under your skin. So, taking the hot baths, getting tickle massages helps to relieve that again.

G: You know in your book you say 102-106. Now you’re saying 105 – so, has that changed?

A: Yeah – I’m changing it, yeah. I just wanted it to be safe. Originally it was 110 – that’s a typo.

G: Yeah.

A: It was supposed to be 101 to start off slow. You know, with the 110, so –

G: That’s really tough, man – being in there and sat for about 10 minutes and you get your knees in, so –

A: Like I say: Take that bowl of cold water with you and you stick your fists all the way up to your wrists in there and put a cold cloth on top of your head – you’ll want to stay in there. It won’t be tough.

G: Ice pack is not as good – just an ice pack?

A: Ice pack is a little too cold.

G: Yeah, because I put an ice pack and it really just does my head in – I just felt awful.

A: No, you don’t do that – you got to put a towel up there – at least double the towel on top if you’re going to use an ice pack.

G: Now Aajonus, you say it’s a 105, but does that mean you’re sitting in the tub? Because I’ve taken my temperature – if I’m sitting up I can have it 105 and half of me is up and I can take it, but at 102 I have to be in the tub to get just my nose just sticking out and my mouth, right. So, when you say 105 do you mean you’re –

A: Your whole body should be under.

G: So, your body temperature’s got to be near a 105 then?

A: No, it won’t be 105 because the body will always cools itself by three degrees minimum.

G: I’ve had my body temperature almost – when I had the tub at 102 – I’ve had my body temperature a half a degree below that – 101 and a half.

A: Yeah, but once you go above 102 it won’t elevate – even if you’re 105 degrees – the body’s not going to get hotter than 102 except under the skin.  If you take your temperature under the arm you’re going to be almost as hot as the water, but if you stick it in your rectum or in your mouth, you’re going to be about 102 in a 105 degrees.

G: So, what’s the minimum body temperature you want it to be then?

A: I don’t worry about body temperature – I worry about the 105 degrees I’ve found consistently because the body needs that to do –

G: Of the water, right?

A: The water has to be 105 degrees.

G: I have a sauna.

A: Sauna’s a dry heat and – minimum is a 137 in one of those infrareds – still too hot. You start to destroy the enzymes and mucous membranes managing the cells at 110-112 degrees, so you’re damaging the mucous membranes by being in a sauna or a steam bath. You cannot go over 110 degrees because it will destroy the enzymes and vitamins in your skin.

G: How long do you leave the ice cubes?

A: Two minutes.

G: No, I’m talking about out of the freezer. You take the ice packs at the tub –

A: Yeah, you take cold water, you put ice cubes in it and you leave it out – you leave it at the tub with you. As long as there’s ice cubes that water going to stay cold. If the ice cubes melt then it’s not going to stay cold.

G: I’ve been having trouble finding a thermometer for the water – I don’t know where to go.

A: A bowl thermometer’s good.

G: What?

G: (Inaudible).

G: Who’s?

G: What’s it called?

G: I use a drug store thermometer.

A: Swimming pool.

Ok do you have a question, Gill?

G: I’m hearing a lot of talk about arsenic: How do you get rid of it; how do you keep it from (Inaudible)?

A: It’s difficult because they’re putting in arsenic in all grains because it makes the animals fat – they swell up; they gain more weight. Arsenic is very toxic – the body’s gaining fat to protect itself from the arsenic poisons. They also use it as a pesticide to keep moths and rodents out of the grain fills. So, they are fed commercial grains and they have arsenic in it. So, I stopped eating – even Amos today (Inaudible) and he does feed them a processed fish meal which has arsenic in it.

G: What are we going to do about our (Inaudible) this winter that are coming?

A: I said in winter time I don’t eat eggs or chicken.

G: Well then what do you eat?

A: I just eat only meat now. I stopped eating fish because of Fukushima and the radiation.

G: You heard about the Santa Monica sea food?

A: Santa Monica sea food?

G: You said last time that you eat the Santa Monica sea food.

A: That was before Fukushima.

G: But that was the last problem.

A: No, I said if you eat deep sea fish – certain ones are probably ok, but I don’t even trust it now because the radiation levels getting higher every week.

G: What about Atlantic fish?

A: Atlantic – you’ve got the (Inaudible) travelling up from the Gulf, constantly seeping.

G: Oysters are the only safe things to eat?

A: No, not even those. I will not eat any sea food unless I’m in the Philippines, or (Inaudible) or somewhere around there because the Fukushima comes east to America. It’s hasn’t got down to the Philippines yet.

G: What about the oysters – they’ve got a hard shell – they’re not going to go into that.

A: They absorb it in the shell. Well, the oysters will absorb it into the shells; clams and mussels will absorb it into the meat and shell.

G: Well then it’s ok for me to get the blue clam oysters, isn’t it?

A: I said I don’t know – that’s the way it used to be, but I haven’t tested any oysters since I’ve returned. You can break open the meat and test it with a Geiger counter and see if there are radioactive isotypes in the oyster meat.

G: For the chickens – is that across the board in the whole of the United States?

A: When my Amish Farmers are feeding the chickens commercial feed – that’s the limit.

G: So, then we have very little to eat – just beef in the morning and –

A: That’s right – yep. Dairy and fruit.

G: Giving the scraps for your own chickens.

A: Wonderful. Giving it your chickens is wonderful – you’re not feeding them arsenic. But anytime you buy a feed from anywhere unless it’s an organic farmer that doesn’t store his feed – there’s going to be arsenic in it.

G: (Inaudible).

A: Yeah – well, I just grew my grains. I got 210 ninety pound bags of rice for my Thailand property. Now I’ll feed that to my worker. He does not leave my property. What they do is they build a shit house – literally. They take cow shit and mud and then make the walls that way – it keeps out the rats and everybody else. So, it’s really a shit house. So, they’ve got grass on there and they coat it to plaster and they plaster it with cow shit and mud.

G: When is the winter starting for Amos’ farm?

A: He starts feeding them somewhere around mid-late December. Then I don’t eat anything until May – no eggs or chickens – unless they promise me there’s not any. They cut their own food they have to use arsenic in it – they’re not buying from any store. So, they buy it from a local farmer who has to put it on the market and he’s organic grain foods. And from what I understand they’re all using commercial feed grains now.

G: That’s just four months.

A: Yeah, that’s four months at best.

G: Yeah.

G: To May?

A: June through December. And you know, you have to get on Amos’ and Eli’s case and say: “Hey, grow your own stuff instead of getting it someplace else.”

G: Or we stop buying it – that’s all?

A: Yeah, and they lose a lot of money.

G: You can’t make that drink – that berry drink that you gave for vaccines?

A: That’ll help, but you’ve got other toxins to deal with. Arsenic is not easy – arsenic is a very dangerous poison; it causes heart attacks; it causes liver failure – it causes all kinds of problems. Arsenic is a very dangerous substance.

G: So, if you get organic grain is it going to have arsenic in it too?

A: Could be if you buy commercial – you have to test it. Mine doesn’t of course, but I don’t sell mine – it feeds my workers and my cows. And of course –

G: If you go to someone who grows their grains and say: “Look, I want your feed –

A: Absolutely, yeah. And if I were going to eat rice – which I don’t – I would store it in big jars of glass. Moths can’t breathe in there – there’s no oxygen for them and so you tack it and keep it.

No rats. Well, let me put it this way: When I was in the desert I had a jar of nuts and seeds – the wild rats would actually unscrew the jars – actually unscrew the jar. So, I had to put lock caps on them – literally.

They do consider the rat the smartest animal next to the human. I think they’re smarter than human – rats don’t go around poisoning each other for profit.

Do you have a question?

G: Yeah, I’ve pulled a muscle in the shoulder? Anything other than hot water bottles; lubrication formula?

A: Yeah, when you pull a muscle that means you’ve torn – you have lesions in it – you’ve torn the muscle. Then, you do like boxers and put raw meat on it and a hot water bottle. Also –

G: Hot water bottle and meat at the same time?

A: Yes. With meat on, then the hot water bottle – but, it’s better if you put just a little bit of honey and butter mixture on the meat – just a thin layer and then butter on the one side, a thin cloth over that – cotton or silk – and then a piece of plastic over that, and then an ace bandage over that, so it doesn’t dry out. That way you can keep using the same piece of meat for two to three days until it stinks. I will use it beyond stinks – I don’t give a shit because it will heal much faster if it’s decaying meat. So, I will just use it until I can’t stand it and I can’t sleep then I don’t use it. Then I’ll change the meat.

And if you do that usually a torn muscle will heal in about 12 days. It will still take about six weeks - normally it takes about a year and a half.

G: Anything internally?

A: Pineapple’s helpful, to get rid of the foreign tissue. Not a lot of pineapple, but if you have a little bit all day long. Like in the mixture I said with the berries, only if you have pineapple. And just sip it throughout the day and you’ll heal a little bit faster because the bromelain in the pineapple will help break down the dead cells that will bruise and damage the calf.

Ok? Do you have a question?

G: When I was very young I had a case of pneumonia and to save my life they shocked me full of antibiotics. So, forever after I’ve had serious killer migraines. Even since that pneumonia antibiotic incident.

A: Well, nobody has deadly pneumonia – you’re just very sick. But the pharmaceutical industry – the medical industry - are terrorists, so they’ll get you to take anything that they believe. And they’re taught to be that stupid – they don’t observe – they’re just taught to panic and react; they’re not taught to experiment and observe. They’re not allowed to experiment – that’s against the law. The laws of the AMA who follow the pharmaceutical industry’s advice – they write all the procedure manuals. If you don’t follow the pharmaceutical industry’s advice, you are breaking the AMA law. So, they get punished.

So, they follow what they’re told and they’re told to be terrorists. So, what happens when you take an antibiotic for five days? You lose one percent of all bodily functions. The body is 99.99% bacteria. Antibiotics destroy all bacteria – in a five day cycle you lose one percent of the body’s abilities. Every five days you take off a whole percent. To recover on a good diet it takes about two years to recover one percent – two years. If you do this optimal diet of mine and eat high meat you can get over it quicker. The bowel is the area that feeds the brain and the nervous system. So, the bacteria in your colon has never recovered and the only way you can get it to recover is to implant a high meat juice in to your rectum and then massage it in and let it distribute it in there. Or, eat lots of high meat – like probably (Inaudible) times a day for three months and then the problem will all be restored within another five months and you have to do it for three months again. If you implant it in your rectum and you massage and you do your belly roll to make it go into your system up into the whole colon, that one implant of about three ounces of that high meat juice can keep you going for three months – just one time.

G: Can you swallow high meat instead of chew it?

A: Yeah – yeah. High meat’s pre-digested – you don’t have to chew it.

G: What kind of jars are you asking us to put it in?

A: Glass.

G: No – I know glass, but what size of jars?

A: Depending on how much you want to make and how much you intend to use.

G: Now, don’t fill it to the top?

A: No, only half full always.

G: Half full?

A: Yeah. You need an air space in there – you need both aerobic and anaerobic bacteria.

G: I just read that we have bacterial DNA in our DNA which our nearest relative animal don’t have; that we have something unique.

A: Well, a lot of us don’t have it anymore because of vaccines.

G: Don’t have what?

A: This particular DNA that other animals don’t have.

G: Oh.

A: Pig has almost identical to what we have.

G: So, what does the antibiotics have to do with the migraines and (Inaudible)?

A: The brain and the nervous system are fed from the colon. Her colon bacteria was wiped out. The brain is not getting the food it needs, so it swells. The brain is constantly swollen because it’s trying to get all the nutrients and they can never get all the amino acids because she’s not digesting properly – that causes constant brain swelling.

G: Oh, ok.

A: I’m sorry I didn’t explain that – I’m glad you asked. You didn’t understand that until I said that too, right? Probably nobody did.

G: I did.

A: Sometimes I say things – come to conclusions.

G: Is there any other way to treat the brain swelling? Any additional way?

A: Only way you can do is feed the nervous system properly and that’s by eating high meat if you don’t digest properly in the colon. See, all that food is digested – it feeds every part of the body in to the small intestines. Once it gets in to the colon you’re getting to the finite particle breakdown – it feeds the brain and nervous system – the neuron cells and the neurological cells. So, that is a whole process in itself – that’s a very short trap. That very long small intestines feeds everything else in the body – that colon is strictly for the nervous system and brain. If it is not operating you can have migraines, you can have autism and it can have all kinds of problems. And it maybe unrelated to mercury at all – the brain is just a vision – depending on what kind of antibiotics you got. Tetracycline was a bad one – I mean it caused so much ADD – it was amazing.

G: (Inaudible).

A: Yeah, the brain. Yeah, I was of the view that I did lots of tetracycline or cocaine.

G: Yeah, I actually just told my Mom that I it was from lots of tetracycline when I was inside her.

A: Oh, no.

G: What is that – an antibiotic?

A: Yes, an antibiotic – that was 60’s – came out in the 60’s. Late August 60’s, to 70’s, early 80’s.

G: That was in the 50’s wasn’t it?

A: That was just beginning to use it intravenously.

G: They did it in the military though.

A: Oh, yeah. They were doing that first.

G: How do you make high meat juice?

A: You let it go long enough – you leave it out. When it starts juicing at the bottom – turns into black juice – that’s completely digested – completely – absolutely digestible liquid. One tsp. of that can make you as happy as a (Inaudible).

G: Can you put it garlic in there? Like garlic or something to make it taste better?

A: Well, you can put it in milk. It’s better if you just drink and wash it down with milk.

G: Like a tsp. in an ounce of milk?

A: Yeah, you can do that. Or, just take a tsp. and wash it down with milk.

A: If you leave it in your mouth some of that’s going to go right to the (Inaudible) during the meat meal and you get happy. If you leave it in your mouth for two minutes you’re going to get silly.

G: Aajonus, do you have any of that juice available that (Inaudible).

A: I would be in jail.

G: How long does it take to get to drink – how many days?

A: Well, if you leave it out at room temperature and you’re exposing it to some light – not direct light – and you’re opening it and the meat’s not dry it will start breaking down pretty quickly, but it takes a while – maybe six weeks.

G: For what – the juice?

A: Yeah, it starts shrivelling juice.

G: Just open it up and close it in the house?

A: No, you want to take it outside.

A: But you don’t want to open it as often even though it’s outside of the refrigerator. I still will open every three of four days. You want anaerobic bacteria rather than aerobic bacteria.

A: Ok – do you have a question, Rosanna?

G: Yes – Aajonus, you said that the lymphatic system detoxes through the skin –

A: Yes.

G: And people who have kidney stones and liver stones are released in the urine. My question is: Is it possible that you can get a stone to push through the skin when the lymphatic system is detoxing and have this bath or whatever and come through the skin?

A: No, your body will melt it.

G: It will melt it?

A: Will melt it. That’s the point of the hot baths – to melt it – to get it in to a vapour so it can pass through the skin; you can’t pass those through the skin. When you have kidney stones, and kidney crystals or at least kidney sand, your body still has to dissolve that or else you’re going to have a lot of pain if you pass them.

G: But at the same time the crystals will still –

A: If the lymphatic system is moving.

G: If it’s moving it will leave through the skin?

A: Yeah.

G: Wow.

A: Most of those toxic crystallized minerals will leave through the skin.

G: What about saunas – are they good?

A: I said: Saunas are not good because it’s too hot.

G: It’s too hot.

A: Do you have a question?

G: Just debating so many chemtrails lately – I’m just wondering: Is there a remedy on that? Or, what’s the best thing to eat –

A: Well, like I said in the newsletter: You eat the berries – eat more raspberries because they’re dumping more aluminum in everything else. And if you understand the chemistry of aluminum – aluminum causes five times more charge in an explosion. Most of your gun powder – they add 25% aluminum to make it five times more powerful to explode. They use aluminum in everything – every ignition to make the explosion greater – the damage greater. So, they’re filling us with aluminum and injecting us with vaccines and bombarding it with us.

Now, the technology – my father worked with General Electric – was an inventor. He worked with turning salt into an explosive which they could not do. This is General Electric – hate to do this. Sodium when it’s isolated is more volatile than nitro glycerine – one and a half degree change sets it off. They could not make it a weapon, so it’s still not a weapon, but they still use aluminum that way – as an explosive enhancer.

So, HAARP was another thing – using energy levels to change the structure of things. They mix that HAARP to make you explode inside wherever they’re pointing it at.

G: Wow.

A: So, now you know why they are bombarding us with mostly aluminum from the air. You’re inhaling all that – it starts combining with salt and let’s say some other minerals like iodine – what’s going to happen if they direct a charge from HAARP on you? You’re going to explode – parts of your body are just going to explode – you’re going to bleed to death inside – you’re going to have heartaches; you’re going to have liver failures; you’re going to have aneurisms – people are going to start dropping dead if they do that. So, they’re planning; they’re planning on your death.

G: Yeah.

A: They say it’s all weather modification – it’s bullshit. It’s been proven that even through seeding – you have less solar storms from seeding – it just makes it harder and harder to seed to get the rainstorms.

G: You notice that the rain has been sunk in some areas because it’s all –

A: Correct.

G: You just have to look up at the sky. We have to get somebody in the top military on this.

A: No, the military’s behind it.

G: Well, where do we stand? I mean, I’ve been putting out flyers.

A: You have to take care of yourself the best you can.

G: By handing out and protesting is not going to –

A: No, you have to take care of your body the best you can – that’s all you can really do.

G: Protesting isn’t going to do nothing – shit – nothing?

A: Not the way I see it – as long as we have Obama and everybody else in office. No matter who gets it in office…

G: What about Terry Jonston? Remember Terry?

A: He’s not going to get it – Ron Paul’s the only promise we had and he’s not going to make it – they won’t let him.

G: If you’re outside and you see chemtrails, come inside?

A: I don’t go outside – I just go inside.  If I go outside I wear my Israeli gas mask.

G: I just have that organic cotton mask – I can’t wear that heavy thing on my face.

A: No, well, I do – I use that heavy thing. I got pulled over because I had that on – they thought I was a terrorist. I was going across State border from Mexico to here – I had it in my truck – they pulled me over and searched everything because I had a gas mask. They said: “Why do you have a gas mask – are you a terrorist?” I said: “Do you know that the (Inaudible) on the high ways of California – all you have to do is be exposed once and you’ll going to be (Inaudible) for life. So, if there’s an accident I’m protected – I go out to my trunk, put that on and I’m protected.

I said: “Why do you use a gas mask? Are you a terrorist?” That’s a good analogy if you –

G: (Inaudible).

A: People are going to have to revolt. People are going to have to shut down the planes that are taking off and there’s going to have to be some way to stop it. And the only way to stop it is know where those planes are coming from and stop them.

G: What about Mike Murphy’s film that they just made into a second one?

A: He’s making awareness –

G: Yeah.

A: But nobody’s stopping it.

G: Nobody’s stopping it.

A: Nobody’s stopping it.

G: That means the guys that know about that – the military – they could see that people know it’s coming – they could know that we know about it.

A: The military knows.

G: They know, but it’s not like they’re going to stop it.

A: Yeah.

G: What?

A: Yeah, but even if they do, they would follow the orders.

G: Once again – we have to stand out in the street and get the news feed.

G: We have the ordinary police are now like this – criss-crossing the skies; they have the whole transportation quarters assigned to them.

A: Yeah, but see when you’re seeping like that the exhaust from those planes magnifies, because they add the water added to that chem – so they make the chemtrails stay longer.

G: Aajonus, is that why the water vapor is staying longer too – because of the chemtrails?

A: Because it’s mixing with the chemtrails – so now they don’t dissolve. So, now the contrails won’t disappear.

G: Oh, that makes sense.

G: So, contrails disappear now?

A: No, contrails enhance it.

G: Now the contrails are staying longer?

A: There’s no seeding – if there’s no seeding contrails will disappear. If they’re seeding, the moisture from the plane stays in the chemicals – in the seeding.

G: But wait a minute – you said that we can go to the LA County Board of Supervisors and have a hearing there, but I don’t think that would do anything – would it?

A: Well, they’d have to get on to the military to stop bombarding us. Because they bombard in Ventura and over me in Malibu and then most of it drifts over there – they don’t really scrape this area too much.

G: Not anymore.

A: They do it in Malibu and Ventura and then let it drift over (Inaudible).

G: They called it chemtrolling. That’s what I heard at the conference.

A: Anyway –

G: Oh, like I say: It proves it’s a military plane because the commercial plane couldn’t fly in those directions – they’re not allowed. Only the military is allowed to fly…

A: Yeah, we even have the contrails that add to those patterns.

G: Oh, commercial planes?

A: Yes.

G: I get it.

A: Commercial planes add to the military.

G: Is there any safer place to live, or is it just everywhere? I mean, it’s mostly where I grew up in the United States.

A: It’s all over the world except for certain islands in the Philippines.

G: Wow.

A: It’s the only place I have not found them. In fact, even in (Inaudible) in the Palau Island they’re bombing there – but where my property is in Palau there’s no bombing.

G: Wow.

G: Because it’s too small?

A: Yeah. I mean it’s a few percent of the town (Inaudible) – they don’t give a shit about us.

G: Military’s there – do they have the military there?

G: Tourists?

A: Dozens there – there’s some wind. Sometimes there’s rain – crowds will move over and I think in (Inaudible) it rains every day – every day it rains.

G: Have you had tested the water or not for contrails?

A: I get my wells tested; I get my food tested.

G: So, we all get to live on an island with Aajonus.

A: That’s what people have already done there – they become their own farmers.

G: Is the water clean though?

A: It’s a lot more expensive than here – it’s almost double than what it is here.

G: Yeah, but if it’s clean.

A: You have to admit it’s worth it – it’s worth it. We’ve got very clean drinking water. And my other place in Thailand – my farm there – I get bombarded all the time, but I’m right at the foot of a mountain, so I’ve got big clouds from the mountain protecting me from their chemtrails. So far it hasn’t contaminated my lungs on my land.

G: Hey, Aajonus – you said to use your newsletter for the chemtrails. If we do that is that sufficient if they harm us – to be immune to that?

A: Well, you’ve just got to get a lot of the aluminum out – and I would say you’ve got a lot of aluminum out because you’re gray. Nothing causes more gray in a body than discharging aluminum – it destroys the para-aminobenzoic acid which regulates the pigmentation of the skin and hair. So, when aluminum gets into the hair follicles, the pallet can no longer be utilized – the pigmentation – so the hair will go gray. So, if you’re gray you’re discharging a lot of aluminum. Like, when I was discharging heavy – all this was gray at one time – this was all gray – keeps going in and out. Whenever I’m detoxing aluminum – more than anything else – my hair goes more gray.

G: So, my hair’s more gray now.

A: You’re discharging aluminum.

G: I have one or two hairs.

A: So, you’re lowering your enhancement of exposures.

G: Yeah – but Louis is black, but I’m sure he’s healthier than me because he’s been on the diet a lot longer than me – he’s probably already got the aluminum out, right?

A: Not necessarily – you have a hair test and you will see, but a hair test won’t really do it unless – if his hair is gray you’re going to see a high aluminum content. If it’s not grey you may not see a high aluminum content – you’d have to check the blood or the urine to see what the content of the fluid system is to see if you have high aluminum.

G: But, I’m sure I still have tons of aluminum inside me?

A: You could – yeah.

G: So, I guess what I’m trying to get at – people on the diet – if we’re just on the diet and if we’re following what you said in the newsletters to do because of the chemtrails – if they –

A: It’ll reduce the possibility of you dying.

G: But we won’t be completely immune to it? We’ll just be…

A: Right, you might have quite a few spots on your body, so you explode – like on my leg.

G: Yeah – but we’ll survive it, maybe?

A: Yeah.

G: Ok.

A: We’ll be able to recover.

G: We’ll be able to recover – we won’t croak.

A: Yeah. Other people are not going to recover – they’re going to run to the Doctor and get more injections and poisons and they’re going to get…

G: A missed opportunity.

A: You’ve been here a long time – you didn’t wake up soon enough.

G: I know – I mean, that’s what they say at the hospitals.

A: Oh, you didn’t come soon enough – yes.

G: Too much Iodine – ok don’t eat it when it’s whole because that adds to the explosions – but you mentioned iodine.

A: No, I said salt is an explosive.

G: Right.

A: Once the body isolates the iodine from the sodium – sodium is concentrated – it’s an explosive.

G: Oh, I see. So, it’s not that you can use seaweed – is it?

A: If you would cook the seaweed – yes.

G: Yeah, don’t cook it – of course.

G: My car topper about chemtrails – that won’t change anything?

A: Well, you’re going to make people more aware and you probably will get it stopped sooner or later – but it’s not going to be for long.

A: Yes, Lucky? First of all let’s thank Lucky. If you have everything spick and span so he doesn’t have to do anything.

G: Yeah – spick and span.

G: Let me see if I get this straight: We’ve got being poisoned from the sky; we’ve got hidden GMO’s in our food; then we got Fukushima coming, along with the China coal dust –

A: Kidnap or die.

G: I think we should just need to have more sex, more drugs and –

A: Die.

G: Yeah – I mean there’s no way of getting away from it.

A: Yeah – we can move away.

G: It’s hard to pin. The chemtrails are there – they’re everywhere. The GMO’s are hidden in all the food. And you say these things: Which you say you don’t go outside – what difference does it make if you don’t go outside – the cows you’re eating and drinking from are?

A: Yeah, but I can reduce the load.

G: Well, yeah – it helps.

G: Yeah, but what’s the point in not going outside? I mean, how can you go far and pick a berry, or ride your bicycle, or take a hike, or do yoga if you don’t go outside?

A: You can do that inside.

G: You can do that during the day.

A: Do it at night time. Particle is retarded at –

G: The Fukushima radiation doesn’t go away at night.

A: No, but I’m saying chemtrails can reduce that. Well, you have to understand that even isotope particles are charged higher when in sunlight. They will more likely to rip you to pieces if one gets inside you.

G: So, you don’t sunbathe anymore?

A: Not here. I will get a massage outside when I get a massage – once every week or once every two weeks. I will do it in the sun when there’s no chemtrails.  If there are chemtrails, I won’t do it out in the sun.

G: Well, you know they hide chemtrails – you can’t always tell there’s chemtrails – they look like clouds.

A: The colouration of chemtrails I can always tell. There’s a rainbow type sheen to it.

G: Oh.

A: I can always tell.

G: But with GMO’s (Inaudible) out now we’re going to have it out now – we’re going to have it on the ballot.

A: Do you know how many companies are exempted from having the label – all of us now? It’s a step in the right direction, but we won’t be protected from it. It’s a start.

G: Is this the way it’s going to be all winter?

A: Yeah. It’s a start. Everybody vote for 37 – absolutely. Even though it’s not perfect, it’s a step in the right direction.

G: Yes on 37?

A: Yes on 37 – absolutely.

G: So, what about 32?

A: (Inaudible).

Yes?

G: So, I was going out of town for a while – whatever, anyway – and I buy some liver that was still in the plastic and it’s been in the fridge in the plastic for about a month and it seems like it’s kind of breaking down – I was going to throw it out – so, I was –

A: Open it, pour out the stuff and scrape off the outside.

G: Pour off the juice?

A: Pour off the blood and then take a flat knife and scrape the surface. Make sure you have the plastic off of it when you eat it.

G: Ok. So, it isn’t progressing any towards being high or anything – right?

A: You don’t want to progress it in plastic because you’re going to get the phthalates in it.

G: Ok, but then again separately I have a bison heart that’s been sitting there probably for two months. I ate a lot of it, but then I got tired of it. Can I slice that up and take it out of the fridge and make it high?

A: Glass or plastic?

G: Glass.

A: OK, good – yep.

G: So, I need to take it out of the fridge and make it high meat?

A: Yeah – cut it up into smaller pieces.

G: Yeah, but then after it’s sat out for a week or something like that, can I then put in back in the fridge and treat it like regular high meat – or, is just to be out of the fridge?

A: Well, once it’s digested it’s digested – but putting it back in the refrigerator isn’t going to cause it not to be digested all of a sudden –

G: I see.

A: You can’t reverse the digestion process –

G: Ok.

A: Only inside a creature’s body can you reignite it into something bioactive.

G: So, I can start eating this as high meat?

A: If you want really really high meat really really fast, pate it and then spread it out a little bit – move it out – get a little air space on it – and then let that break it down. You could even mist it with a little milk.

G: I always liked liver pate’d.

A: Yeah.

G: But I don’t know – this would get a little strong.

A: Yeah, but once you’ve already made it you can blend it with milk.

G: Uh-huh.

A: It’s good for you.

G: Yeah. So, you can have high meat with milk?

A: Yeah.

G: Ok.

A: As long as the milk isn’t cold – it can’t be cold milk.

G: You couldn’t do that with the liver formula, but then use 50% meat and 50% milk?

A: Yeah, you can do that.

G: Really?

A: Yeah – just don’t refrigerate it – don’t blend it with cold milk.

G: Ok, but it still gives you the results of high meat?

A: Yeah.

G: Ok, thanks.

A: Just remember: That high meat is when the protein is completely digested in the meat – just the way you would do in the colon. That’s why people get high within the 20 minutes of eating high meat because it’s already pre-digested – it gets right into the blood – right into the brain and the nervous system.

G: (Inaudible) has a really strong flavour – likes it’s probably fermented – but within two seconds that burger – zing. Because it was all digested.

A: Uh-huh.

G: But to continue: Not to have a lot of milk with the meat meal?

A: Well, you don’t want to have a lot of milk with a meat meal that isn’t pre-digested. It will prevent meat from being digested – your body’s is going to work more on the milk than the meat.

G: So high meat is exempt from that?

A: Definitely – yes.

G: Yeah, ok. You could do an enema with high meat.

A: That’s what I said – yep.

G: I mean like a lot – like a quart?

A: Yep, you could do that.

G: Yeah.

A: You would be pretty high.

G: Nothing wrong with that.

A: No, you would probably be a good athlete if you did that – a phenomenal athlete – your body would have such coordination.

G: With what?

A: If you implant a quart of high meat in your bowel. He’s a bigger guy than you, so. Say, you did it with a cup and a half – bigger athletes need a quart.

G: Do it before you go to dance and you’re able to dance all night.

A: Yeah.

G: Do it by yourself, Aajonus.

A: I did it one time – I didn’t sleep for three days and I had sex five times a day.

G: Wow.

A: One time at his place in 2000 – it was December 1999, I think it was – right before Y2K. And we butchered a deer and we took all the glands and the brain and we blended them together – I was dead tired because I’d done a workshop and seen patients for two days and I had to go pick up my girlfriend at the airport in Reno, Nevada and they lived in Nevada City – California.

G: It’s about a two hour drive.

A: Yeah – about two hour – well, about two and a half at night time. So, I had to drive, but I didn’t have my normal nap because we shot the deer – so, I had to butcher it – so, I didn’t get my nap in. So, we ate those glands and put them all in this big container –

G: One big tub.

A: Yeah and we ate it. I had so much energy – when Laurie got off the plane – we had nothing but sex for five hours. And I still couldn’t sleep.

G: So, you made a shake out all these glands?

A: All the glands.

G: And you just drank it?

A: Yeah.

G: The eye balls, the brains –

A: Everything – we put everything.

G: Did you have a bowl of it?

G: You like clam chowder?

G: Yeah – I love it.

G: You love it?

G: I love liver. When it’s warm – it’s fresh –

A: Liver’s almost all protein, so it’s hard to digest for most people. Eat a lot of fat to burn it down –that’s why I like to blend it – pated – it’s better. The fact is: You want to digest better, sleep less, and add more energy – pate all your meats. I eat everything pated and I don’t eat anything whole meat anymore – I sleep three, four hours a day and that’s it I’m done for the rest of the day, but when I eat whole meat pieces, I will sleep for five hours.

G: Pate it with butter or what do you do?

A: No, I pate it by itself and I add butter to the meat meal.

G: Do you get one of those grinders?

A: No, I use a food processor. I take the meat and I cut it up into little inch by inch cubes –

G: An Osterizer blender will do it?

A: Listen: Ok, I take the meat and I cut it into inch cubes, then I put it in a food processor – fill it about half way – and then I keep blending that in the food processor until it’s pate’d – takes about a minute.

G: What is it? A processor – not a blender?

A: A food processor – it’s like a Cuisinart [brand name].

G: Then you put butter on it, you say?

A: No, I put butter as I’m eating.

G: What about the red onion?

A: Well, that sauce I had with the meat – I eat a sauce with my meat.

G: Ok.

A: So, it has onion, it has dill, it has all that – did you have my meat?

G: It was tasty.

A: Did you like that?

G: No, I might have missed that.

G: What one was it?

G: The one with the brown sauce on top.

A: Taste a little of the sauce.

G: Is that pate’d, Aajonus? Aajonus, is that pate’d?

G: That’s cheeses too, right?

A: No, that doesn’t have cheese in it. What that is: It has a lot of dill, it has sage, it has a little basil, tomato is the main ingredient and onion and garlic.

G: Oh, wonderful – I can taste it now.

A: But it’s mostly dill – I add a lot of dill – probably about 20 sprigs of dill.

G: Oh, I can taste it now – yeah – it’s good.

G: Do you put butter in?

A: Oh, I put butter in – yeah.

G: I forgot to ask you about (Inaudible) – do you know anything about that?

A. Yeah.

G: Ok.

A: That’s what we eat with the moisturizing lubrication formula – having two a day until (Inaudible) subsides. And then having one daily until the rest of the life. Unless it’s a child – they’ll get over it in about 20 years, but an adult will never get over it unless they’re constantly at the bone.

Pete?

G: Yeah, I’m still stuck a little bit on the baths because I did a whole lot this last summer – and exactly what you were saying, but the hotter it was, the quicker I had to get out – like sometimes I couldn’t take it after half hour and the more I did I kind of thought I would get used to it, but no – I kind of would hit a wall and I couldn’t do it for two/three days –

A: You’ve got a lot of metals inside –

G: Yeah.

A: And radioactive material, so you need that cold bowl –

G: Just get the hands in there?

A: Yeah, up to here – the fists in there – not tight if you want the water to get in to your palms, but just up to here – two minutes – and then a cold cloth on your head every two minutes – you’re going to want to do nothing but stay in that water.

G: And when I do that am I still in the tub?

A: Yes.

G: But, I have to get out a little bit – I sit up?

A: You’ll sit up for a little bit – yeah – for three minutes.

G: Ok, and then do that?

A: Yeah.

G: And then go back in the tub –

A: Yeah.

G: And the tub’s got to be 105 –

A: Yeah.

G: And I lay down so only my face is sticking out?

A: Well, I can take it down to like this so only my nose is breathing, but out of the water is going like this –

G: Ok.

A: Of course I cross my legs like this –

G: Yeah – and your knees are sticking out.

A: Partially the knees just a little bit – mostly I get the knees down.

G: My stomach sticks out too.

G: So, you’ve just got your head in there?

A: Like I say I’m using –

G: I do it with a snorkel.

A: That’s a good idea.

G: Well, there goes my entertainment – I was thinking my head is almost totally submerged.

A: You don’t need goggles – you just do it with a snorkel.

G: Aajonus, I have the water up to the ears.

A: That’s ok.

G: It goes in and it goes out.

A: Yeah.

G: Now, what I can’t compute with is: Because when you said it doesn’t matter what your body temperature was – because you always said you have to get your body hot enough to melt the hardened –

A: 102.

G: So, a 102 is when that stuff starts to melt?

A: Yeah.

G: So, if my body temperature actually only goes to 101 is a waste of time?

A: No, because you’re still – under your skin you’re getting warmer. Just take your temperature under your armpit and you’ll see how hot your skin is getting.

G: It’ll be different than the mouth?

A: But your blood may not get that high, so your mouth temperature and your rectal temperature will know how hot your blood is getting.

G: Yeah. Well, the hottest I ever got it was 101.5 and I don’t know if the thermometer is totally accurate because it was 98.3 when I got in, so maybe it’s a little bit off.

A: Yeah.

G: Ok – so, a 102 is what the body temperature would need to be?

A: Yeah. And if your body is 101.5 you can better believe that your lymphatic system is 103.

G: Oh, really?

A: Yeah.

G: How do you measure the lymphatic system?

A: No, you can’t.

G: You can’t.

A: You can cut a hole and stick –

G: Oh, ok – so it’ll be hotter than your blood?

A: Your blood has a cooling system – your lymphatic system doesn’t have a cooling system.

G: Oh, yeah, because my heart pounds and I’m breathing deep and that’s part of the cooling? Oh, ok.

A: And you also have esters that cause you to…, like antifreeze, that causes the lowering of the blood temperature.

G: Oh.

A: Because you’ll sterile the blood at 105 degrees.

G: Ok, so the blood will be 102 and then your lymph will be about 105?

A: About 104.

G: About 104? So, the minimum lymph temperature you want is 104?

A: No, 102.

G: 102 is the minimum lymph temperature?

A: Right.

G: Oh, ok.

A: That’s why if you’re in at 105 degrees for 90 minutes that lymph system is going to reach 102/103.

G: Oh, hey, I got it backwards then: I thought the lymph was hotter than the blood?

A: It is – yeah. So, if the water temperature is 105 and you’re staying in it for 90 minutes the lymph system is going to reach 102/103.

G: But when the water’s 105 your blood’s going to be how much – 102, you said?

A: Probably 101.5/101.7.

G: But when I had the hot water in the tub 102, I’ve got to 102 with my – taking it.

A: You had a lot of metals in your blood.

G: Oh, ok – so I just need to keep doing those baths then?

A: Your body is cooling itself so your blood doesn’t get that hot.

G: Aajonus, what about lymphatic massage? Can you go over where you massage?

A: Remember I said: A tickle is the only lymphatic massage – there shouldn’t be any massage on your body.

G: I know, but the direction you go – here – up – go down?

A: It does not matter – It’s an electrical input – it doesn’t matter.

G: Doesn’t matter?

A: Yeah.

G: Is there any place you should avoid going toward?

A: Lymph goes everywhere, just like the blood and the neurological system – it’s every tissue in the body... unless it’s blocked of course to particular areas.

G: Doing exercise after a lymph bath.

A: I used to do that for a long time, but when I started having them do 90 minutes – not necessary.

G: Uh-huh.

A: If you’re only doing 45 minutes to an hour, it’s a good idea to block an exercise – but, if you’re doing a 90 minute bath it doesn’t matter.

G: So that would be a good hand for insomnia too because you’d get pretty tired out after all that?

A: Yeah, absolutely. I tell people do it once a day – every day.

G: Aajonus, that’s an hour and a half of the hot baths that I’ve had, like you say. I actually had some tiny little crystals – three of them – on my foot –

A: Congratulations.

G: I mean I saw them and I thought: “What is this.” Because I took a (Inaudible) like this and on the left foot right there on the side, right here –

A: Uh-huh.

G: And I was rubbing it with my hand, but the stick gets really porous because of the hot water – right?

A: Right.

G: And I rubbed it and I got three tiny crystals and before that bath when I would step on my foot it would hurt – like there was something –

A: Sharp.

G: That the skin was hitting against it to make it sore.  After the bath the crystals came out and then I would step on my foot and there was no pain – it was like no obstacle there – there was none of this going on when I pressed on it.

A: Is that right here?

G: Yes.

A: Yeah, that’s a bursa.

G: What’s that – I don’t know?

A: Bursa is a little sack –

G: Yes.

A: The body creates fluids to lubricate the joints.

G: Yeah.

A: And bursitis is very, very painful – I had it.

G: Yeah.

A: And it’s like every time I stepped on it this way I’d be in excruciating pain –

G: Exactly.

A: I wouldn’t be able to move for five or 10 minutes –

G: Exactly.

A: And it’s a crystal – there are crystals that expand.

G: That expand – exactly – and they came out – that’s what I’m talking about – they came out. I was like: “What?”

A: That’s the whole point – there’s plastic crystals in there – fattish – the bursa.

G: Wow. So, are they anywhere else except for the bursa?

A: Oh, they could be everywhere – but the most painful is in the joints and then the bursa.

G: So, how do you think that’s relating to gout?

A: It’s a part of gout.

G: Oh, it is part of gout.

G: Wow.

A: Time is it? Oh, we’ve got Michael.

G: The question is: Which is better: To get bottled water without fluoride or with fluoride in glass? Gerolsteiner, man – that has fluoride in it.

A: But it’s not added fluoride?

G: No, it’s not added – but that’s got phthalates before in glass. Now the best would be the Crystal Glacier – it has no fluoride, but it’s in plastic.

A: I would go for the natural fluoride before I would go for plastic because you have the phthalates that leak into it; the BPA’s. If you’re eating properly and not drinking much water, you’re not going to absorb that fluoride.

G: How about reverse osmosis?

A: Reverse osmosis destroys all bacteria, so the importance to remove the contamination – but not necessarily industrial chemicals.

G: So, not all –

A: Not all industrial chemicals – it will take out every mineral.

G: What’s the question? What is he asking?

A: He wanted to know if it’s better to have a water that has no fluoride in it and no organic mineral fluoride from the earth and not industrial fluoride in the water… but like Gerolsteiner almost of the natural waters have a natural fluoride but it’s a trace amount and even less of a trace – it’s hardly able to be detected – but they can detect it, depending on if you’re using a particular kind of measuring. There’s a water – like a glacier melted in ice and snow – it has no fluoride in it – this particular brand, but they bottle it in plastic and he asked me is it preferable to have plastic bottled water or natural with the small amount of fluoride and I said the natural with the small amount of fluoride. Rather than having the BPA phthalates leaching into your water. If you’re not drinking much water anyway, you’re not drinking much water.

G: So do you think Gerolsteiner is ok – because I’ve seen them label the water differently? Sometimes they say naturally sparkling water and sometimes they say sparkling natural water; implying that the carbonation are added.

A: Well, all the carbonation is always added.

G: (Inaudible).

A: All of them are added. In a well, you’ve got the water table and you’ve got the gas table. The water and the gas never move and they inject them at the same time. Is it the natural gas? Then it’s naturally carbonated. If it isn’t then you’ve got that Coca-Cola and all those beverage companies and soda water which uses a chemically produced carbon dioxide – it’s not a naturally produced carbon dioxide in the earth – very toxic.

G: You’re saying it’s changed – is it ok to change over?

A: Theirs is always more – they’ve got more gas in the well than any other on the planet because they sell their gas to Perrier and Perrier is lost almost all its gas in its wells. However, they’ve changed their levels because somebody doesn’t know what they’re talking about and they label it (Inaudible).

G: Somebody else who didn’t have a question.

G: My only question: I just wanted to ask about the co-op’s near us because I sort of lost track.

A: Ok, there’s Raw Healthy Foods – Marylin is the head of that one. And then there’s the Dairy Feathery which is udderlyla.com. U-D-D-E-R-L-Y-L-A dot com. Udderly LA.

G: Is that local?

A: That’s local – they deliver to 76 at Pacific Avenue on Lincoln every Saturday, but you have to get there by nine o’clock; you have to go between seven and nine in the morning and they do not wait more than 10 minutes – if you’re not there by 9:10 that truck is gone.

G: You have to order it first?

A: You have to order it by Sunday morning at eight o’clock. If you order by Monday morning you have to pay a $20 surcharge. In the first week I ordered on Monday morning and that was the first time I realized that they were still getting Amos’ products, so I paid them a $20 surcharge the first time. If you order by eight o’clock on Sunday morning you get it delivered on the Saturday. Eli requires nine days.

G: You rather prefer Amos over Eli?

A: In the summer time I like Amos’ because it’s creamier – everything’s got a lot more fat in it – his milk’s creamier. If I drink Eli’s stuff in the late spring and summer and early fall I drink maybe a gallon – with Amos’ I drink four and a half gallons a week.

G: Do you drink more or less with the cream?

A: I drink less with more cream.

G: Which is better?

A: Well, my body’s starving for the cream.

G: What does that mean?

A: My body’s starving for the cream.

G: The cream.

 

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G: Do you know if they feed any grains to their cows?

A: His neighbour knows; his family knows.

G: But it is ok if they’re eating the grains?

A: Cows eat grain all the time. If they’re out in the wild – like my cows ate grains in the jungle and let me tell you as soon as that seed ripens and hits it they’re sucking the seed off the dirt. When they’re put into a pasture that’s not on the seed they don’t get any seed, but in the wild seeds are produced at all times in different plants, different grasses because they’re not crop. If they’re eating everything and getting no grains that’s not right, so they should get some grains. So, most of them only get two cups a day – I feed my cows two cups a day of rice and they love that rice. I don’t know what it is – but I had a bull attack me and knock me 20 feet and if I had gotten the horn I would have been dead. I got up and slugged him so hard…  My horse did it once and I slugged him too – and I mean when you hit them in the jaw – their head – even though they’ve got these big necks they don’t expect that and it knocks them over – but when I start feeding them – my workers – my helpers – and I feed them personally – and I also denied one of my cows because he butted me, so I denied him the rice. They learn very quickly.

G: Do you cook the rice before you give it to them or do you give it to them raw?

A: I give it to them raw – of course.

G: Raw? They can digest that stuff?

A: Oh, absolutely.

G: Have you ever hear of an animal that on its own that he cooks the food?

G: Rice is pretty hard.

G: Well, they have an extra stomach.

A: They have two to four stomachs; they have two and a half times more digestive tract; they have 60,000 times more enzymes to digest the cellulose molecule.

G: What do you think of quinoa?

A: Oh, I’ve never eaten it – don’t know.

G: Quinoa is a grain and they use it as a wheat.

A: I’m not for grains.

G: It’s like part protein, part carbohydrate.

A: Well – everything’s part protein but how much? Grains are like 8%-15% protein. Well, soy bean is like 18-22%. That’s why they soak the soy beans to get the protein from it. It’s a very toxic protein once you’ve cured it and stripped it and soak it in kerosene for 72 hours.

G: What about soaked beans? Like quinoa.

A: Still you can’t digest them because even if you ferment them you’re not going to digest them. You have to be a cow, or a goat, or a sheep. If you feed them raw dry soy beans maybe a cow, goat or a camel will be able to digest them, or an elephant – but not any other animal. That’s why Amos soaks his grains and puts them in milk before he gives them to his pigs and other animals, like chickens. He germinates those grains in milk.

G: Do you think that’s why he feeds them grains (Inaudible) and not in the winter?

A: Yeah, he feeds it to them in the winter.

A: I thought you said it was commercial?

A: He wants more protein. He adds fish meal and the fish meal is entirely processed – you need gasoline and kerosene to break it down, plus it has arsenic in it.

G: Aajonus, how long does steak tartare keep without being in the refrigerator?

A: Until they become beef jerky.

G: And you just eat it?

A: Yeah. I wouldn’t eat beef jerky because there are no enzymes, unless you’re going to eat it with pineapple or honey.

G: Yeah.

A: I don’t eat beef jerky. I would if I had nothing else to eat.

G: (Inaudible).

A: Yeah. Like the Eskimos – they eat a pemmican every year and they make a 90lb. block. If they don’t eat it by spring time they bury it because they know there’s no enzymes in it so it’s harder to digest.  It doesn’t give you much energy – it’s for survival through the winter.

G: Better if you eat it with honey?

A: Yeah – then you have some enzymes – yeah. You’ll digest maybe two thirds of it.

G: Ok.

A: If you don’t have honey with it you’ll digest 5%? 10%?

G: Really – that little? Wow.

A: Well, they have blueberries with it, and that has that sugar in it –

G: Yeah.

A: So, it starts breaking down the meat as they’re dehydrating the block so it predigests it – with that because the sugar has certain enzymes in the berries.

G: But isn’t it kind of high meat though – the pemmican – sitting all that time?

A: To an extent, but when they dehydrate it, it’s still dehydrated – there’s no active enzymes.

G: But do you mean it won’t have digested –

A: Why do you think they don’t eat it – why do you think they’ll bury it if they did have to eat it?

G: Yeah, yeah.

G: Aajonus, I have some sliced meat sometimes in the refrigerator.

A: Dry it out.

G: Dry it out because it’s alive inside?

A: It is alive, yeah. If you’re going to do that put in a little piece of pineapple.

G: Yeah, I like that way.

A: Sometimes there are certain proteins that mix with amino acids and mix together that won’t mix – it’ll do that. I have several patients that have to have it that way.

And since May 13^th some pineapple or honey – not both – one or the other – whichever one you do better with, then they tell me what they need in their meat as well to digest almost all of them – but if you dry it into jerky you’re not going to digest a lot of it.

G: I don’t dry it.

A: You know that deer?

G: Yeah.

A: I packed it into different quart jars and I kept some up until 2010 – and I kept them in olive oil and it was perfect.

G: Wow.

G: Starting from when?

A: December 1990 all the way to 2010.

G: 10 years?

A: Not refrigerated.

G: There was no gas coming out of it, or?

A: No, olive oil didn’t allow anything to grow – I didn’t allow oxygen to move in the meat.

A: Just like frozen in time.

G: Wow.

A: It tasted more acidic than a lot of my normal meat.

G: How much olive oil?

A: Put olive oil – I put about six ounces by volume of olive oil first, then I put slices of deer that were about two inches by an inch. I basted them first with the olive oil, then put them inside as the olive oil raised, coated kept every space so no oxygen – no air – could stay in there and then I stuff more meat up there and I poured more olive oil in until I got about an eighth of an inch of olive above the meat and then capped it.

G: At room temperature?

A: Well, I kept it in a low cupboard where it’s cooler – not in a high cupboard. It was in a low cupboard, but always at room temperature.

G: How much olive oil in the cup?

A: Were you listening to what I said? It’s on your tape.

G: Does it matter if the chunks are bigger? I’ve got some that I put away two years ago, but they were huge chunks instead of slicing it the way you just said.

A: I don’t know I haven’t tried it with huge chunks.

G: Well, I’ll find out when I open it.

A: How old?

G: Two years.

A: With olive oil?

G: With olive oil, yeah.

A: Oh, ok.

G: I put it in the fridge, but that won’t matter would it?

A: Well, the olive oil will solidify.

G: Oh, really?

A: Yeah, olive oil solidifies below – what is it – 72 degrees?

G: Oh, so maybe it’s been ruined then?

A: No.

G: No?

G: Well, I’ll find out – I’ll have to break into it sometime.

A: I’d like to know.

G: Yeah, ok.

G: (Inaudible).

A: Well, you do it as soon as they butcher it so they don’t freeze it.

G: It’s not just frozen, it’s –

A: It doesn’t make any difference: When I fed the animals frozen meat they all got skin disorders – the animals that eat the same meat unfrozen got no skin disorders. So, you lose 80% of your nutrients when you freeze anything.

G: Well, it’s not quite frozen – it’s just a little hard.

A: If it’s below freezing temperature and it’s been there a week – it’s frozen.

G: Well, I’ve melted it. It went in frozen and they call it chilled.

A: Uh-huh.

G: But it’s the only way to get it.

A: Well, find out when they butcher it.

G: Well, if it’s frozen it would be hard – won’t it?

G: (Inaudible).

A: But you have to just go online and search for a butcher that will butcher people’s deers. A lot of people won’t use all of it – they’ll sell some of it if they can. And you just have that butcher call you when you have something fresh and ship it to you fresh.

When he shot the deer – we were out in the back yard and there was a deer out there – he shot it through the lung and that deer was like a cat – jumped straight off and went right back to grazing. The deer didn’t even know what happened and he went grazing off. And I said: “You shot that deer – because I saw the hair come off and the deer jumped.” He didn’t think he hit it. And I said: “Let’s just follow the tracks where they deer went.” And we were like 100 feet?

G: Yeah.

A: And it was fell over. And I butchered it in three hours. Three hours wasn’t bad because we had to skin it –

G: The brains as well – just chip around the skull.

A: Chip around the skull and open it.

G: Where was the deer – what area?

A: Nevada City.

G: Oh, Nevada City.

G: But then cutting out all the meat?

A: No, three hours altogether – three hours total. But it was hard work and it was constant. I was working – I had to get it done – I had to get on the road. And there was nobody else for a butcher, so I had to do it all.

G: Would you go back to that place again because it’s so good – the deer?

A: I don’t know. That was 12 years ago.

G: It’s no more popular now than it was.

A: Well, what do you say we give Aajonus a hand here?